User talk:Digiku/Mod Grading
Yeah, but Mystic Realm isn't an EXE mod. –SonicMaster 00:01, 8 November 2007 (PST)
Nuts. XD --Digiku talk 00:02, 8 November 2007 (PST)
Just another point to bring up - isn't there a difference between a "mod" and a "level pack"? A level pack is just as it sounds, a pack of levels, which a mod (should) involves EXE modifying. From how I see it, they should be classified as two different things.
...however, this does bring up the issue if Mystic Realm is a mod or not. Ugh, this is getting rather convoluted...--Spazzo 12:25, 9 November 2007 (PST)
Tell me about it, Spazz. This is an ugly topic that I really really want to get over with. :)
A "level pack", as I see it, is just a "compilation" of levels that have no relation to each other or no inkling of plot or no knowledge of the fact that they'll be packed together. A "mod" has some substance of plot and at least some of the levels were made in commitment to a mod. Compilations are part of the grading system as -5. None of that should actually matter, anyways.
The mod creator/editor will know inside themselves whether it's really a "mod" or not. Excuse me for the expression, but if it's a mod, then they'll feel it. Do you feel that Mystic Realm is a mod? I do. They don't need to be told what a mod is. Again, those meanings shouldn't even be on the grading system, and those are things we should decide for ourselves for each individual mod. For example, I see Mystic Realm as a mod for its reasons, and I see Blue Heaven as a mod for its reasons, even though the latter has no SOC. Yet we don't challenge it being on the Wiki. --Digiku talk 15:03, 9 November 2007 (PST)
One major part of this is to not invite anyone to actually write about their mod. Don't make any MB topics or anything. If they think it's important enough to be on the Wiki, let them find out for themselves. --Digiku talk 15:19, 9 November 2007 (PST)
SRB1 remake does not have bosses as of yet --Torgo 4:41, November 2007
Gotcha. --Digiku talk 15:03, 9 November 2007 (PST)
SonicMaster's Hypothesis
This sounds vague, but a level pack should just be extra levels. Match level packs are NEVER mods. A mod has those single-player levels tied in; they imitate official single-play. For example, it sounds like Golden Ruins would be a mod, but not one good enough to be on the Wiki. Modifying the way the Special Stages are played is a plus. Also, a simple level pack is not going to have bosses. Oh, I guess my grading system stunk—I thought of the point values on the spot... –SonicMaster 15:07, 9 November 2007 (PST)
Don't sweat it. Yours helped mold mine a little bit. :) Mine still has some flaws, but I'm trying to make the example mods at least relatively proportionate in terms of points and their face value. --Digiku talk 15:11, 9 November 2007 (PST)
One more thing
We might want to redefine what we want to see on the Wiki. Quite frankly, I don't think I'd mind seeing an article on Spazztastic Community Pack or DMZWADPACK2. With level compilations, I mean, and maybe a few other stuff. The Wiki's, in part, a community thing. How bad could it be? We're on a good track, otherwise. --Digiku talk 15:18, 9 November 2007 (PST)
Yeah, see, that's the thing. Community packs with a significant amount of maps (at least 10) that were given at least a moderate rating by the community as a whole is worth noting. Aside from that, yeah, I agree. This is a really good guideline. I also think a proposal system for mods that don't make the cut based on that should be considered. Possibly on the main Mod page's talk page? ~DarkWarrior Talk • Contribs 17:15, 9 November 2007 (PST)
So we...won't be deleting Mod? Anyway, if a specific mod doesn't make the cut, shouldn't like, the SRB2 Wiki staff vote yes or no, 75% majority rule? –SonicMaster 18:17, 9 November 2007 (PST)
Level Pack article
If we've already established a difference between a "level pack" and a "mod", why isn't there a page for level packs yet (Rather, the more important question is do you think they deserve their own article) --Spazzo 18:24, 9 November 2007 (PST)
It sounds like it'd be a really short article. Maybe it could be mentioned as a subset of "Mod" in the primary heading "Difference between a Level Pack and Mod". –SonicMaster 20:41, 9 November 2007 (PST)
Make Level Pack a redirect to Mod and explain what a level pack is in that page. In my eyes, I don't think the difference between the two is all significantly important. Maybe. --Digiku talk 00:08, 10 November 2007 (PST)
Just throwing this out....
ShufflarB2 got a 14 on your scale. ~WafflezHedgehog~•blahblahblah•*facepalms* 18:06, 30 November 2007 (PST)
Mystic Realm, the perfect model, huh? So far, I like Botanic Serenity more. Yes, I'm really serious about this one. –SonicMaster 02:04, 4 December 2007 (PST)
I said it before, I think, but private talks between DW and I suggested that a mod grading system won't be used, and a mod policy would instead be more discretion-based. Nothing was finalized, though. It was over a month ago! --Digiku talk 09:33, 4 December 2007 (PST)
Where was this mentioned? –SonicMaster 10:47, 4 December 2007 (PST)